tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7072440028440011959.post4415696078755143050..comments2024-03-20T04:06:14.857-04:00Comments on Education Outrage: exposure, cultural literacy and other myths of modern schooling: a responseRoger Schankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14567989582447087635noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7072440028440011959.post-37797383261429556802012-10-29T09:39:43.839-04:002012-10-29T09:39:43.839-04:00Perhaps it is your style to address the counterarg...Perhaps it is your style to address the counterarguments briefly; however, I find it to be passive. You're merely touching the surface of the counterarguments while you elaborate on your perspective. In earlier posts, I noted how the opposing view was elaborated on in comments. Then you yourself commented saying this blog is meant to touch upon subjects, providing a link for where readers can express themselves more. Now, that's where I am confused on what the purpose of this blog is. Is it for an outlet on your beliefs, or a place for controversial discussion?<br /><br />Now, you wrote that an aspiring chemist would be asking questions about the works of the world well before learning to balance equations.<br /><br />You're assuming that chemistry is the only subject that questions the works of the world; subjects overlap and there are a myriad amount of subjects. oreover, you assume the exposing process is complete before the class even begins; nonetheless, it is the details, connections, and overall concepts of a subject that make the most profound impact. In the classroom, students experience the subject on a more intimate level; therefore, they become well-informed. One cannot simply say, "I want to know how the world works, physics doesn't matter, engineering doesn't matter, psychology doesn't matter, because only chemistry corresponds with my desire to know how the world works. Wait, I remember hating balancing equations, but that's not a problem because I want to know how the world works". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7072440028440011959.post-18635222029631030862012-09-15T09:32:37.131-04:002012-09-15T09:32:37.131-04:00As a long-time leader in the homeschool movement, ...As a long-time leader in the homeschool movement, I have waited almost 30 years for people like yourself, John Gatto, and Ken Robinson to speak out and agree that the "Emperor" really IS naked. BTW, I can't figure out how to subscribe to your blog. Help, I need some daily "fresh air"! Thanks, Chris DavisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04684138055871551285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7072440028440011959.post-27384143386295719302012-09-09T20:38:38.747-04:002012-09-09T20:38:38.747-04:00Someone who might be interested in chemistry would...<i>Someone who might be interested in chemistry would be asking questions about how the world worked long before being forced to balance chemical equations.</i><br /><br />It might be hard for someone who is accustomed to an authoritative body setting standards to shift ideas and understand inquiry guided learning. Inadequate experience with a good example of inquiry guided learning probably contributes to the obfuscating effect of our prevailing (and very old) system. <br /><br />Ironically many of the topics ' covered' in school refer to the work of autodidacts (self-educated persons). These people serve as good models of the process of inquiry and the results of inquiry led learning. I don't think that anyone would fault the following people as having insufficient 'exposure' in their education: Abrahm Lincoln, Charles Darwin, Herman Melville, Michael Faraday, the Wright Brothers, Frank Lloyd Wright, or Leonardo da Vinci. All are autodidacts who <b>understood</b>, versus <b>knew</b> (and then forgot) because they combined curiosity with thought and study.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765471870346594878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7072440028440011959.post-81961396386458862392012-09-09T20:13:35.640-04:002012-09-09T20:13:35.640-04:00Someone who might be interested in chemistry would...<i>Someone who might be interested in chemistry would be asking questions about how the world worked long before being forced to balance chemical equations.</i><br /><br />It might be hard for someone who is accustomed to an authoritative body setting standards to shift ideas and understand inquiry guided learning. Inadequate experience with a good example of inquiry guided learning probably contributes to the obfuscating effect of our prevailing (and very old) system. <br /><br />Ironically many of the topics ' covered' in school refer to the work of autodidacts (self-educated persons). These people serve as good models of the process of inquiry and the results of inquiry led learning. I don't think that anyone would fault the following people as having insufficient 'exposure' in their education: Abrahm Lincoln, Charles Darwin, Herman Melville, Michael Faraday, the Wright Brothers, Frank Lloyd Wright, or Leonardo da Vinci. All are autodidacts who <b>understood</b>, versus <b>knew</b> (and then forgot) because they combined curiosity with thought and study.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765471870346594878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7072440028440011959.post-22998729248213846892012-09-09T13:41:35.675-04:002012-09-09T13:41:35.675-04:00Schools have taken the primary role of being the g...Schools have taken the primary role of being the great deciders. Based on ones ability to memorize "important" subject matter, they sift students into one profession or another. Be the best at fact regurgitation and a top school could be in your future, along with the top school is a plum job where you are expected to do well given these certified skills. Many teachers are called to help students learn to love what school does. They work at advancing the fact absorption process thereby allowing their students to succeed in school. What Roger is suggesting is such a radical departure from education as usual it will require a revolution on par with the enlightenment. Where do I sign up? Paul Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15568112951460383067noreply@blogger.com